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Interview with MC Lars and Weerd Science September 7, 2011

Interview by Angela Blasi

Ang:  So for the record you are…
WS:  I’m Weerd Science.
MCL:  I’m MC Lars, how are you?

Ang
:  Tell me a bit about what you guys what you do.
MCL:  We do independent hip-hop music.  We’re two different acts and on Warped, we teamed up to do a set together.  We have a label called Horris Records- punk based independent hip-hop music; really passionate, really independent and really dope.

Ang
:  How did you get into doing something that isn’t mainstream and makes you unique?
MCL:  I played in punk bands and then started MCing electronic beats and hip-hop beats.  In 2003 I started touring and have been ever since.  It was kind of an accident.
WS:  I was always a musician.  I was a drummer; that’s what I did as a kid.  I’ve been in a band my whole life.  I played in a band called 3 that was signed to Universal and like most young drummers, all I cared about was drum fills.  With hip-hop I always wrote rhymes as a joke; real gangsta shit.  I was a 13 year old fat punk kid and it started to become a real creative outlet.  Mobb Deep and Wu Tang’s records taught me a lot about the drums.  Then I went on to play in a band called Coheed and Cambria for nine years.  Hip-hop always played a big role in my creativity.  Coming from New York I guess that’s what kids did on the bus.  Once it became a real creative outlet, I took it seriously and it was a natural progression to make a record.  Eventually Equal Vision, Coheeds’ first record label, wanted to put out the first Weerd Science album and we did that still playing in bands.  I’m actually in another band on Warped Tour called Terrible Things.  I play drums and I try to work as hard as I can.  You know Lars heard Sick Kids my new record and put it out on his label Horris records.  Were one of the only groups that’s true DIY.  Lars has taught me a lot about that and I really believe in it.  What artist wouldn’t want to own their own record?  I might own pieces of 3 and Coheed and Cambria, but never do you own your own.  Horris Records are all about DIY.

Ang
:  What’s one thing you’ve learned from each other in this hybrid of a team?
WS:  Here we are on the same stage as bands with major labels, only we get to do what we want with the money and we funnel the money right back into the art.  I think Lars taught me that it’s very possible to take care of your art, do what you want to do and believe in yourself on the same level as the big boys but do it on your own.

Ang
:  Is it more liberating because you’re able to take your music places you might not have been able to without that kind of creative freedom?
MCL:  When you have someone investing in your music, that’s external; they always want to have the creative input, then they wanna make you feel small if you’re not delivering in a way that is profitable to them.  There’s a lot of manipulation.
WS:  With a major record label, you can never win.  I remember with Coheed we sold 100,000 records the first week and that it just wasn’t good enough.  The disappointment I felt from that felt like we let everybody down.

Ang
:  What do you find more satisfaction-wise in your own art, more personal gain or more personal satisfaction?
WS:  I definitely do every record solid.  It’s another person whose going to put it on and hopefully it touches their hearts.  That is deeply personal to me and I think it’s the way it should be.  I think the whole DIY thing can really be a convenient stance for a band.  It’s a lifestyle and it has more to do with art and creativity then being about a product.  It all comes down to creativity and I think that’s really important.  I could not believe in that more whole heartedly.

Ang
:  What can I expect to see on stage?  What kind of message and vibe do you try to send through your music?
WS:  For the Warped Tour set it’s short, so we try to keep it really high energy, do a nice mix of both our stuff and try to have fun.

Ang
:  Is it just you two on stage?
WS:  No it’s a full set; we’re trying to keep the rock alive.  We believe in this stuff and hopefully that translates to the crowd.

Ang
:  Do you guys have any influences that you draw from?
WS:  I mean, I still draw some of those records that became the foundation for me as a musician.  Wu Tang is a major influence and Snoop Dogs’ Doggiestyle got me into pfunk.
MCL:  I really like the independent people, like Atom and His Package.  He’s a huge influence and his stage show is so engaging.  He’s funny, tells stories and his songs were great.  Wesley Willis was this big keyboardist and his art was his sanity and his peace.  He was happiest on stage and everything is normal on stage.

Ang
:  What is your definition a poser?
MCL:  I feel like a poser is someone who buys into mass media and a corporate way of being different and maybe not authentically follows what’s in their heart.  I don’t think that kids are always trying to find themselves, so I don’t know if you can judge someone who’s trying to find themselves.  A poser is someone who is not true to themselves.
WS:  Especially out here with Warped Tour- it was supposed to be the sub culture and not pride itself on following the trends.  I really dig what Lars said, that kids are trying to find themselves.  It’s an evolution.

MC Lars

Weerd Science

 

Venetia Fair at Warped Tour August 17, 2011

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I ran into Mike and Joe from Venetia Fair and talked about how things are going for them.

Mike:  My name is Mike; I play bass in the Venetia Fair.

Joe:  I’m Joe Brown; I play keys in the Venetia Fair.

Ang:  So how’s the tour treating you guys so far?

Mike:  Tough and awesome and hot and dirty.

Joe:  Definitely been dirty.  I’ve been wearing the same shirt for 32 days today.

Ang:  Is it lucky perhaps?

Joe:  No, more so that I have refused to acknowledge my body telling me that it needs to be washed and I’m ignoring any health signs more of a personal thing I have with myself.

Ang:  So tell me, what makes your music so different and great?

Mike:  A lot of people say our music has a burlesque kind of theme or a rag-timey feel.  The music is very intense, but it’s also very catchy.

Joe:  It’s definitely heavy and theatrical; cabaret-esque piano and waltzy parts that reminds you of a circus.

Ang:  Where do you draw your influences from?

Joe:  That’s an interesting question because none of us listen to the same thing.  I know when we used to do interviews we would always take people who would compose scores from movies and stuff.

Mike:  Like scores from Tim Burton films.  Any weird stuff that grabs people’s attention.

Ang:  Where are you from and how long have you been together as a band?

Joe:  Boston

Mike:  The band existed for about four years.  We started touring two years ago and this is our first year playing Warped.  It’s also the first time we’ve been on a tour that we’re playing everyday like a festival.

Ang:  What can we expect to see from your live show?

Joe:  Here’s what I tell people when they haven’t heard us: “I guarantee you our live show is the wildest set you’ve ever seen and we go crazier than any band.  If I’m wrong and you can honestly tell me that there’s a band that goes crazier, then I’ll just stand there and you can punch me in the head as many times as you want.  We pride ourselves on our live shows.

Ang:  How does that crazy energy translate into the crowd?  How do they respond?

Mike:  Our fans are awesome.  They’re the wildest people in the world, and we make sure they’re all wild too.

Ang:  Would you describe your music as high energy and up tempo?

Mike and Joe:  Yes!

Ang:  What type of message are you trying to convey to your listeners?

Joe:  Nothing matters.  Life is a toilet, deal with it.  Don’t be a baby, don’t let anything bother you.

Ang:  What is your definition of a poser?

Joe:  A lot of bands think that they want to be that band, so they’re posers.  I don’t think that’s true.  I think they just want to play music.  A poser would be someone who’s pretending to be someone that they’re not.

Mike:  I haven’t heard that term in a while.  I think it changed to hipsters.

Joe:  Poser used to have like a negative connotation to music in general.  You could just call someone a poser and they’d be like ‘fuck.’  I feel like now it’s actually turned into the word it’s supposed to be.

Ang:  What do we have to look forward to from Venetia Fair?

Joe:  We’ve got a couple of things we just put out.  A new EP, it’s called The Pits and we got it on iTunes, Amazon and on our Facebook.  We just put out a music video for “A Man Like Me.”  It’s on YouTube and all over the internet.

Mike:  We’re also putting out a whole bunch of tour dates soon.

 

Larry and his Flask Interview August 13, 2011

By Angela Blasi

I had a few minutes to catch up with Ian Cook and Jesse Marshall of Larry and his Flask Vans Warped Tour in Oceanport, NJ.  Check out their new album All That We Know that just came out on Tuesday 8/9/11.

Ang:  How was your performance today and the turnout?

Ian:  It was cool, we’re kind of one of those bands; we’ll start out with a small gathering of people and by the end, people walk by and they’re like “what?”  They see this guy jumping around with this huge standup bass, and there are banjos and mandolins, so they stop and want to watch.

Jesse:  Today a lot of parents came up to us and said “Thank you so much, I hate all the music on this tour, I’m in pain being here.”

Ang:  How long have you guys been together?

Ian:  It’s kind of a weird story.  We’ve been together for seven years and started out as just a straight up electric punk rock band and it kind of evolved.  In the last three and a half years, we’ve been playing more traditional instruments, more like a full gear sound.

Ang:  How’s New Jersey been treatin’ ya?

Jesse:  The Saint in Asbury Park was awesome and we played The Wellmont Theatre in Montclair with Dropkick Murphys; it was really great.

Ang:  Are there any bands your fond of touring with?  Any bands here you’ve hit it off with?

Ian:  Foxy Shazam.  They’re off the tour now and left at the Montreal date.  They were amazing.  We made really great friends with them, nicest guys.

Jesse:  We bonded immediately.  Our van broke down in Michigan and they let us ride in their tour bus, they’re great guys. Also, the Aggrolites are awesome.  We’re definitely going to be playing with them in the future.  We’ll be touring with Lionize in the fall.

Ang:  For someone who’s not familiar with your music/stage show, what is something the new-comers can expect?

Ian:  I would just say come prepared to have a party.

Jesse:  It’s an explosion of energy.

Ian:  We just try to play at every show like it’s the last one we’re going to play; give it everything and see if we get anything back.  If we get twenty percent back from what we’re giving out, then we’re happy.

Ang:  As far as your music and song writing goes, is that something done collectively as a band?

Ian:  It’s different from time to time.  Most often one person will bring the song to the table and it’ll change drastically once we get it into the practice space and start hashing out things.

Jesse:  There are also things we’ve written completely collectively, the lyrics and the music, but a lot of times one person will write the lyrics, bare-bone skeleton of the song and then we’ll all go in and add.  Maybe a horn pop would be cool here.

Ian:  Kind of throw it around.

Ang:  Do you guys have a method in getting together and writing, or do you find that your influences have any sort of bearing when you get together and write?

Ian:  Yeah, definitely.  Me personally, I write a lot of songs by myself just with my acoustic guitar and definitely my influences have an effect.

Ang:  Same for you Jesse, is there a particular kind of music that brings out a flare to the music?

Jesse:  I don’t know, punk rock and gypsy music; a lot jazz.

Ian:  We listen to a lot of music.  We’re huge fans of music in general from metal to hip-hop to jazz.

Ang:  Are you on for the entire duration of the Warped Tour?

Jesse:  The tour ends in Portland, which is like two hours from my house.

Ang:  Aren’t you guys from Oregon?  That worked out well.

Jesse:  Yeah.  Everybody else is like ‘I have to drive back to New Jersey.’  Luckily, we go home, do a couple of shows and a couple of festivals.  We do a festival in Seattle called Soundfest, a couple of home-town shows, then we go to play Riot Fest in Philly and Chicago and FEST 10 in Florida.  Finally, we do a full US/Canada tour, go home for a little bit, then we go to Hawaii

Ang:  Sounds like you’re always touring, how are you physically enduring all the traveling?

Ian:  It’s how we all grew up.  We started touring while still in high school and we got used to it more and more.  The first time we went out, we were out for two weeks and played like four shows.  Then it got bigger and bigger and we got used to living on the road.

Jesse:  Luckily we’re all younger, our twenties and stuff.  None of us have any kids.

Ian:  None of us have any ties at home other than girlfriends.  We kind of built our lives around the band.

Ang:  What’s your favorite area to play?

Ian:  I like Florida a lot.

Jesse:  I really like Colorado and it’s always fun to go to the city- New York or San Francisco.

Ang:  It seems like you guys have been everywhere.

Jesse:  Yeah, we’ve played in 44 states.  We haven’t done North Dakota, Alabama, Hawaii or Alaska.  We are playing Hawaii and Alaska coming up soon.

Ang:  Anything else you’d like our readers to know?

Ian:  We just released a brand new album.  It’s called All That We Know.  It’s available digitally now on Amazon and iTunes and released in stores on 8/9/11.

Ang:  Finally, what is your definition of a poser?

Ian:  Somebody that’s lost in any sort of false idea of what should be true.  Somebody who should be following their heart and they’re not.

Jesse:  Kind of just pretentious, trying too hard to fit in I suppose.

 

REPUBLIC OF LETTERS: The Band that Broke this Camel’s Back May 1, 2011

By Orin Louis

Ohhhh dammit.  After Wiki-ing “indie rock,” I can say that, from this genre, I enjoy and regularly listen to Elliott Smith, Interpol, Arcade Fire, and MGMT – but have only heard pieces of others, including The Killers, Modest Mouse, and The Get Up Kids.  Yes, I am one pathetic loser, because these bands are huge.  They sell out shows to tens of thousands of screaming little bastards; they are crucial links in our musical zeitgeist – indelible landmarks on our cultural landscape…blah blah…I know, and am hesitant to reveal this ignorance to you.  But I suck at lying.

So why is my opinion here worth a turd?  I’m rational, skeptical, and most importantly: fucking hard to please musically.  There’s a solid reason I’ve avoided this style so long – it’s often sappily two-dimensional.  I can’t ever tolerate country music because my dog hasn’t screwed my wife in the old Chevy pickup on the farm; likewise, I simply don’t relate to most indie.  It just doesn’t speak to me.  I was raised on classical, classic rock and a tinge of electronic.  Truth be told, I rarely enjoy music with any words at all, especially anything current.  High quality instrumentals plus meaningful prose is as common as hetero unicorns.  Lo, WTF – suddenly, my car’s been blasting an indie rock album on repeat for weeks?!  Republic of Letters’ new EP, Painted Hour, packs the emotion of Arcade Fire, the wisdom of E. Smith and the punchy pulse of MGMT.  The resulting sound floats past those less desirable, but all too familiar, indie rock traits, while staying true to the genre.  Artists of any medium who consciously work toward stretching a cluttered style in new directions – and are successful at it – are the only ones worth experiencing.  ROL’s music addresses common themes – love, hope, loss, desire, frustration, but from new angles.  Profound lyrics over meaty, hungry instrumentals take me somewhere else, somewhere I want to be.

In my favorite track, “Running From,” a reverby piano accompanies lead singer Chris Venti’s mellifluous voice so perfectly.  Picture “November Rain” vs anything Radiohead.  “Running From” never loses energy as it effortlessly builds and breaks, hitting me deep in the gut.  Lyrics like, “Cause the writing on the walls today / yeah I don’t know just what they say / was stolen from a haunted past,” do not entirely make sense to me, but jeez, I don’t want to understand immediately.  Robert Frost said: “Poetry is what gets lost in translation.”  I say the most valuable art is not that which is immediately accessible, but that which reveals clear intention, while leaving room for discovery.  Every track on Painted Hour has this effect.  The music is intelligent; it holds back the right amount to keep me engaged yet, with each play, I hear something new.

I meet the band at The Red Fox Room in North Park, CA.  I’d expected lanky, drugged-out assholes; yet, to my relief, they are sharp-witted and genuinely personable (but still lanky).  They’re also snappy dressers.  I ask them to start at the beginning.  Guitarist Adrian tells of when he was a kid, watching his parents’ band: “She dressed up in cheetah print…they played so loudly, I’d go up the stairs and try to play along with them on keyboard.  But I really wanted to be a drummer, and began by playing bells.”  I asked if that was a helpful experience.  “Hell no!” He retorts.  “Carrying around a bell kit, you’re a target.  I got beat up a couple times.  But I used the bells on the last record for one tiny part.  Nick gave me shit, but it worked, ya know?  Now I practice guitar usually around eight hours each day.”  An aspiring, yet busy, guitarist myself, I can’t help but envy the guy – perks of being a professional.

Bassist Martin began on the recorder “‘Hot Cross Buns,’ dude,” he tells me (now regretfully).  “I played trumpet, then got good at baritone horn.  Even got to play in a Charger halftime show.  One day, my dad told me, ‘Get good at bass and you can be in any band you want.’  I started going to shows, even if I didn’t know which bands were playing.  I spent all my money on CDs.”  I ask if playing for a pro football stadium was difficult.  “It’s much scarier playing for friends intimately.  That’s the nice thing about touring—you can be whatever you want in front of people you don’t know.”  I imagine meeting ROL in a few years to see if they’re still pretending, or if they will have become these alter egos.
 The Venti brothers’ (singer and drummer) mother is a classically trained pianist and vocalist.  Nick recalls, “Music was always around.  We were always in a creative environment.”  I ask about how/when he knew he wanted to be a musician.  He tells me of a night in his teen years, at a Bad Religion show: “Riding the mosh pit, I got thrown into that space between the stage and the crowd.  Security was walking me out when they became distracted by two punks climbing the rafters.  Everyone rushed over there and I had a moment to decide…I jumped up on stage while they were playing.  My friends were like, what the fuuuu?!  Was just one of those moments.”  He reminisces on ROL’s early days: “We were a piece for a year, until Adrian came in to raise up the musicianship, and we finally found that sound. All our music now is about creating a mood. If we all like that mood, we’ll continue with it.”

I ask Chris from where he gets his lyrics. He explains: “I go through notebooks of crap to pick out a few winners. I’ll build a song after that. I’m always trying different writing methods to grow, like maybe starting with the idea in a chorus and then going to verses. Although, I’m not totally bound to that because there are songs I love that I have no idea what the words are about, but they’re my favorite songs.” I ask why. “Probably because you can attach your own meaning, and then start to build a story around it. You connect the dots in your own way. The interaction between music and listeners…I always thought that was cool.” His brother adds: “For our sound, the song is the most important part of the song, if that makes sense. The music around it should be tasteful and interesting, but if you were to strip down one of our songs and play it on the acoustic, that’d be the most important thing.”  ROL is not an acoustic band; they play electric guitars, basses, and keyboards.  I am still digesting this idea, that the song is the most important part of the song.  Something profound here.

Nick tells me, “It’s not real methodical.  We all look at it like, how can we write a better song?”  I ask, “What’s a better song?”  “Cliché, but one that pulls on the heart-strings.  It’s a never-ending process.  If you feel it…the song will create an emotion in you.  It’ll make sense.  I mean we don’t wanna make people cry, but hopefully the song connects and make sense.  There are rules, but it’s cool to break ‘em if you can do it.”  Chris adds, “It’s enjoyable when things click with four people.  You don’t have control of the other people but, from nowhere, you all tap into something and it just starts to work.  You might have heard that from other artists.”  Adrian interjects, passionately: “What was burning behind all of it was this feeling, this energy, this basic drive from the beginning.  We didn’t know how to write a song…we just kept putting one foot in front of the next and here we are.”

I ask their thoughts on the San Diego music scene.  Nick says: “It’s great.  Small, everybody knows each other, real supportive.  SD’s missing real industry though—labels to help bands move from here to there.  LA has all that, but it’s not real inviting.  You come to LA to play, just to do your thing.  SD’s more communal…supportive radio and people.  In the 90’s there were a few labels here…but there’s just not a lot of good deals anywhere out there anymore.  People who that think the music industry is dying are wrong.  It just needs to evolve.  It’s in that middle period.  I know groups who’ve signed to labels and it works for them…but the label takes a cut of everything…which is fine if they’re making you a lot of money, but often it’s not like that.  A band now gets momentum on its own.”  I ask him, “Advice for those trying to break into it?”  “Don’t quit,” he says.  “Every band that started when we started is not around anymore, at least on the local level.”  I can’t help but marvel at their determination.  Although, it doesn’t hurt that they rip and, should they ever forget, they will be quickly reminded by their massive local following.  They invite me to a rehearsal.

The following week, we meet at their studio, a room in a building made specifically for bands.  Walking down the hallway, I hear and see musicians all over, smoking and jamming out.  To my surprise, Republic of Letters sounds exactly the same or better than they do recorded.  I try hard not to lip-sync, though by now I know most of the words.  I enjoy a private show for myself and two photographers.  I don’t intend to stay long, since I’ve other assignments beckoning, but I end up staying the couple of hours through their entire set.  Each musician is focused, professional and deliberate.  It is clear in their expressions and through their playing.  I leave feeling extra special, having experienced this young band, no doubt soon to be a household name.  Imagine seeing the Stones before they were the Stones.  Yeah.  Feels like that.

Sigh.  Guess I’m into indie rock now.  Not ready for the tight jeans yet (I’m not lanky), but I am eager to check out some of the band’s other musical recommendations, including Louis XIV and Transfer.  At the bar earlier this week, Nick described Republic of Letters’ songs as “new kids, which we get to see grow and grow.”  Pick up their new album ASAP, catch them live and witness their talent and notoriety grow and grow.  Hendrix said: “Music doesn’t lie.  If there is something to be changed in this world, then it can only happen through music.”  This band has something to say and the skill with which to say it.  If their music doesn’t change this world, at worst, it is guaranteed to alter the entire indie rock genre forever.

 

A Word with Alan Wilder October 31, 2010

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NVMP: Back in February of this year, you appeared as a special guest with Depeche Mode, performing a song with Martin Gore at Royal Albert Hall.  Now, Martin Gore is guest DJing at a Recoil after-party.  How did this come about?  Has it opened up the possibility of a renewed professional relationship?

Alan Wilder: Martin and I enjoyed a good chat on the Albert Hall day, and he was in impressive shape having been on the wagon for about 3-4 years.  He seemed like a completely different person – much more confident and outgoing.  I liked the new Martin, so I just e-mailed him and asked if he would be interested in doing a spot, since he lives in that part of the world and I heard that he enjoys DJ-ing occasionally.  It doesn’t imply any further work together, it’s just something fun for everyone attending hopefully.

 

A Word with Alan Wilder October 28, 2010

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NVMP: Why do you think that record companies still refuse to dig deep within their own musical rosters to push any artist making music that is viewed as “experimental” or “difficult”?

Alan Wilder:  I’m sure in an ideal world, any record companies would like to see all of their artists sell plenty of product.  The reality is that some are always going to shift more units than others.  There can be any number of factors, including luck, which determines how popular an act is.  The trend these days with the companies (even more than in the past) is to ‘chase the ball’ and follow-up on whatever bites.  It’s become a more rare thing to see an unknown act taken by the scruff of the neck, and to have money thrown around in an effort to break it big.  Mute in particular are not that kind of record company, and we rarely see that kind of rash and often misguided approach.  But it does still happen.  Take ‘Hurts’ for example.  I’ve no idea how an act like ‘Hurts’, who seem to have come from nowhere, are suddenly splattered across my TV and radio, being marketed everywhere from sports adverts through to national newspapers.  That can only mean they are the pet of some A&R guy with a lot of power – or, somebody in power has made an executive decision to take a gamble, throw as much shit as possible at the wall, in the hope that some of it sticks.

11/1 – Recoil ft. Alan Wilder at Highline Ballroom, NYC!

 

A Word with Alan Wilder October 27, 2010

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NVMP:  What does your iPod playlist feature?

Alan Wilder:  I have always enjoyed many areas of music, from different eras – mainly older stuff.  A few old and current faves would be: U.N.K.L.E., Radiohead, David Bowie, Roxy Music, Elbow, Massive Attack, Morrissey, The Who, Goldfrapp.  Latest purchases include Gill Scott Heron, John Foxx, ‘Odelay’ by Beck (the remixes), Architect, Boards of Canada, Johnny Cash, Howlin‘ Wolf, Grinderman.  I also listen to a lot of film soundtracks.

 

A Word with Alan Wilder October 26, 2010

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NVMP:  Even after a three decade long professional relationship, do you find it difficult working within the confines of a major label (even one such as Mute)?  What types of challenges has working along a major label presented?

Alan Wilder:  Mute are not really a major label.  Even since Mute has been owned by EMI, the mentality of the label has always been one of an independent.  In recent years, since the EMI take-over, the bureaucratic elements of dealing with Mute became more difficult (I’m referring to convoluted logistics in order to get simple things done).  The good news is that Mute have just announced a reversion back to being much more properly independent (not just in attitude).  EMI and Mute-boss Daniel Miller have reached an agreement that will allow Daniel to establish a second record label, and ensure the continuation of Mute as an independent record company.  The new label will operate under the trademark Mute (which it is licensing from EMI) and will tap into EMI’s units for sales, distribution, synch & licensing and merchandising.  Daniel will control the new label – with EMI taking a minority equity interest in the company.  I’m happy for Daniel and for Mute’s future – I feel this is an important move in the right direction.

Recoil @ Highline Ballroom November 1st, 2010

AFTER-SHOW Depeche Mode/Recoil party!

 

A Word with Alan Wilder October 13, 2010

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Many artists that NVMP covers find it difficult to establish themselves within the ever-changing and troubled music business.  As an established artist, do you find yourself experiencing the same problems?  What suggestions could you share with up and coming artists in navigating through the industry?

AW: I find I need to be very pro-active these days, in all aspects of what I do.  I can’t just sit back and wait for the record company to make it all happen, for CDs to just appear in shops, radio to just promote your music etc.  It just doesn’t happen without a lot of persuasion, networking, producing special editions and other enticements, plus being on the road which more and more artists find they have to do these days, not least to actually sell their wares at the live events.  The industry has massively changed – it’s a dog eat dog, cut-throat, here today, gone tomorrow, vacuous, Simon Cowell-obsessed animal, and it doesn’t suit everyone – particularly the whimsical ‘artistes’ that just don’t have that kind of drive required to perform the hard sell.

***Don’t forget, Recoil hits Highline Ballroom, NYC on November 1st.  And the after-show Depeche Mode/Recoil party!***

 

Recoil: A *Selected* Interview October 6, 2010

Earlier this year, the musical world received a surprising but welcome return to touring from former Depeche Mode member Alan Wilder, better known under his current moniker of Recoil, in support of his latest album release Selected.  Thanks to the success of the tour in early 2010, Recoil has fortunately decided to return to the road for a full-on fall tour, with assurances of a grander interactive experience in tow.  In the midst of tour preparations, Alan took the time to answer a few questions for NVMP’s Mark about his latest release and the updated tour.

NVMP: In past interviews, you made it known that touring with Recoil was unlikely because of your disdain for touring coupled with your assertion that Recoil is essentially a studio project.  After 15 years of studio work, what inspired you to take Recoil on the road?

AWThere were a number of reasons – with all the new and old remixes at our disposal, the fact that it is 25 years since Recoil began, and also the fact that these days it is cost effective to use film.  For me, this was always a ‘must’ for any live performance of Recoil.  And with the advent of cheaper, portable HD cameras as well as affordable editing software, to make films has suddenly become viable.  I have been collaborating with four different directors for this project using a central server where we could all upload (and feedback on) our work-in-progress.  Without a band or vocalists, this provides the main visual focus.

NVMP: Your video updates have indicated that public reaction to your tour in Europe has been extremely well, with numerous sold-out shows.  How has the response been on the US leg of the tour?

AW: Just as good I’m pleased to say, although touring the US requires a lot more preparation, promotion and logistical work.  It is a very tough market generally due, it seems, to Ticketmaster surcharges putting people off buying.  Promoters are less willing to take risks as a result and it is not so usual to get hotel and travel costs covered either (as we might in Europe and South America).  It is also tougher for us having to procure expensive work visas (a nightmare to organize) and all the other extra costs of traveling in such a huge country.  Luckily, we seem to be doing ok and expect good turn outs everywhere but, despite that, we’ll probably actually lose money on this leg.


NVMP:
With a multitude of opening acts and guest DJs, promoted after parties, (Conjure One, Sarah Blackwood from Client, Mute legends Daniel Miller and Gareth Jones, Martin Gore, a double bill with Gary Numan), how did the artist selection for the Selected events come about?

AW: It just evolves as ideas come to mind – sometimes people are suggested to me, or they might happen to be on the road themselves playing nearby (as with Gary Numan), or they might have an affiliation with a place or town (Dan & Gareth in Berlin for example), they might have had some connection to Recoil or DM in the past (Nitzer Ebb, Martin Gore), or they might be something I just happened to hear and enjoy (like Architect).  I definitely wanted each event to be unique in some way, which is why we have tried to set up after-show parties, situations where local artists can display their work (such as photographer Cosmin Bumbutz in Bucharest) or even perform after the show.


NVMP:
Can you tell us a bit about your live equipment set up and its purpose over the course of your performance?

AW: Paul and I work closely together in the studio although we come from very different angles musically.  I turn to him for unusual effects and lateral thinking.  We have just extended what we do into the live setting.  Initially, we used ‘Ableton Live’, then imported our new work into Apple’s ‘Logic Pro’ to arrange further, and finally back into Ableton to run at the shows, along with live effects, launch pads to trigger them and some external filtering using modular synths.

NVMP: The visuals for your previous tour’s set featured surreal, often nightmarish mini-films, stills and animations.  How did you develop the concept for your sets and whom did you enlist to help bring your vision to life?  What kind of visuals can we expect to see on this the latest tour?

AW:  The way I work with most collaborators is to allow them a free reign.  I enlisted the different filmmakers – all loyal supporters who have also become friends – because I believe they are not only talented but always enthusiastic about the prospect of supplying visuals, using my music as inspiration.  The way we worked was that I would send them the music files and they would ‘respond’ back with the footage they had in mind to accompany it.  I would then offer my views – in the role of ‘executive director’ if you will – and by the end of the process, something usually got created that was powerful and flowed naturally with the music.  The filmmakers are Igor Dvorsky from Slovakia, Dmitry Semenov from Russia and Steve Fabian from Hungary.  I’ve also used some footage from a film by Argentinean director Marcelo Schwartz.  As for what you can expect on this upcoming tour, it’s not quite the same as on the last.  You’ll have to come along and find out…:-)

NVMP: With your live show featuring such a unique multimedia experience, are there any plans to do some sort of CD/DVD multi-media release of the tour?

AW: It’s already happened!  The special edition box set for ‘Selected’ contained an audio CD of the source music we present (excluding live fx) along with a DVD of the film elements.


NVMP: The album that the tour is promoting, Selected, is not merely a “Best Of“, but rather a handpicked audio experience that helps emphasize the eclectic musical styles of artists.  Why did you select these specific tracks to feature?  Why release the album in different versions?

AW: When I realised there weren’t any restrictions or stipulations with the content, the collection idea started to appeal and I kind of knew it would be possible to create an album with continuity, atmosphere and pacing.  And I obviously wanted to feature most of the vocalists who have been involved over the years.
Even though there were a few interesting discoveries (or re-discoveries) along the way, my inclination that it would mainly consist of material from the last three Recoil albums proved correct after I attempted to fit in older material, and noticed that there had been a significant sound change around the time of ‘Unsound Methods’.  I put this down to a couple of things: a) I had much more time to concentrate on the project after I left DM, and b) I had by then, under my belt, the experience of making ‘Songs of Faith & Devotion’ with Flood, where we had experimented much more deeply with looped performance.
The project evolved from what was initially a low budget, designed-for-retail ‘best of’ into something much more – a complete retrospective multi-format package with higher art values.  Over the time spent discussing the release, the climate was almost changing in front of our eyes and it became clear that making different formats available is not only desirable to both artist and consumer, it is also viable financially.  And then the idea of the tour capped everything off.

NVMP: As a sonic perfectionist, you are known for taking your time with albums and tweaking them until they achieve the highest sound quality possible.  How long did it take you to compile and mix Selected?  The audio aspects of the live show?

AW: It is true that I am a perfectionist.  I am never fully satisfied with anything – which is sometimes restricting in that everything takes forever to complete but ultimately, it is that which drives me to always try and improve and produce better music.  It took a long time to put the whole package together because of all the other elements that one has to consider these days surrounding any release.  Putting the music together for the live event took many weeks.  Again, due to film considerations, it became quite a complicated process, but also an exciting and enjoyable one.

NVMP: In news updates for your shows, you make it clear that you will be doing meet and greets at the shows.  Why?

AW: Why not?  I haven’t been out there since 1994 and I get a lot of requests from fans to sign their items and so on.  Plus I’ve always thought it’s important to communicate with the people who have supported me over the years and enabled me to live the life I have enjoyed.  Through this kind of communication, I have forged many friendships and collaborations (just take the four filmmakers as a great example of that.  Each has talent and each has come to me offering their services because they enjoy what I do.  That’s very flattering and also very helpful).  I like to give something back if I can.

NVMP: What type of drinks help enhance the performing live experience?

AW:  I usually go for a couple of beers onstage, and some nice wine afterwards to relax a bit.  Then we see if the night develops…


NVMP
:
How important would you say ‘word of mouth’ has been in your career, especially recently?

AW: Word of mouth via social networking has been very important for the last 10-15 years I’d say.  It’s particularly useful for artists who don’t enjoy the luxury of major corporation backing, with large amounts of cash being poured into TV ads and so on.  I have cultivated a whole network of pro-active supporters who host unofficial websites, run Facebook pages, blogs, forums etc.


NVMP:
What can your fans look forward to next from Recoil?

AW: I’m planning to get back into the studio next year if I can fix my very ill studio computer and get to writing some new Recoil music.  I may show up at one or two events next year but nothing is firmly planned yet.


NVMP: And finally, what is your definition of a “Poser”?

AW: One who is insecure and puts on an act to mask that insecurity.

***MONDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST @ HIGHLINE BALLROOM NYC – RECOIL FT. ALAN WILDER.  ALSO ON THE BILL- ARCHITECT, CONJURE ONE (RHYS FULBER FROM FRONTLINE ASSEMBLY)  AFTER THE SHOW, DEPECHE MODE NY PRESENTS THE OFFICIAL RECOIL AFTERPARTY!!!***

 

 
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